HomeHome  V*Mundi Blog  FAQFAQ  SearchSearch  RegisterRegister  Log inLog in  

Share | 
 

 need help with a clan that fits the following criteria...

View previous topic View next topic Go down 
Go to page : 1, 2  Next
AuthorMessage
NightmareDraw

avatar


PostSubject: need help with a clan that fits the following criteria...   2013-04-09, 06:09

well, im been bored by what im running (colony)

and in the former TCG i played, i played a deck that doesn't get me bored even up to this moment, (what made me quit is how imbalance the game is, its YGO and i ran a fortune lady deck )

so im gonna ask if theres a clan or there are that fits the criteria and gameplay similar to my FL deck in YGO..

for those familiar with ygo terminologies

here's some excerpts from ygo wikia

"revolve around a hit-and-fade strategy involving careful field control leading into a quick field swarm offensive with powerful attacking monsters" usually from the graveyard or from the deck

"they act as a draw engine through the use of "Fortune's Future" and/or "Fortune Lady Water" with "Fortune Lady Dark" that improves the effectiveness of the core Deck strategy." they have a consistent and strong draw engine that is very powerful when set up to the fullest.

another thing to note is they can tool box the deck or/and the graveyard to bring out whatever monster they need for what ever situation

for those not familiar with YGO terminologies

either of these

-field control
-draw engine
-tool boxing
-technical/high options/many outs
-mixed playstyle

so any idea which clan can do the following... all i can think of is Granblue, so if you guys have any other idea please notify me...

btw, im limited to a pauper budget right now (less than 30$) so if you can help me build a starting deck with GB or any clan you think fits the strategy , i thank you very much


Last edited by NightmareDraw on 2013-04-09, 09:21; edited 1 time in total
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Lich_Lord_Fortissimo

avatar


PostSubject: Re: need help with a clan that fits the following criteria...   2013-04-09, 06:48

Ildona Shadow Paladin

No such thing as a jack-of-all-trades budget deck exists as far as I know. It's specialist or GTFO. Like Gold Rutile Ultraviolence. Does one thing, but very well.

Don't apply Yu-Gi-Oh principles to Vanguard. You're just going to have a bad time otherwise.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
NightmareDraw

avatar


PostSubject: Re: need help with a clan that fits the following criteria...   2013-04-09, 06:50

Lich_Lord_Fortissimo wrote:
Ildona Shadow Paladin

No such thing as a jack-of-all-trades budget deck exists as far as I know. It's specialist or GTFO. Like Gold Rutile Ultraviolence. Does one thing, but very well.

Don't apply Yu-Gi-Oh principles to Vanguard. You're just going to have a bad time otherwise.


hm then hit me with a list of technical clans or multiple outs type


or at least a hit a fade tactics that generates hand advantage
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Lich_Lord_Fortissimo

avatar


PostSubject: Re: need help with a clan that fits the following criteria...   2013-04-09, 06:58

Kagero, as a blanket clan. And maybe once we get it Set 9 Murakumo.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
NightmareDraw

avatar


PostSubject: Re: need help with a clan that fits the following criteria...   2013-04-09, 07:19

ugh kagero... i dislike that clan.. not a fan of dragons
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Epideme

avatar


PostSubject: Re: need help with a clan that fits the following criteria...   2013-04-09, 08:04

Didn't Alice make a quiz for this kind of problem? In any case there aren't so many clans that you would have trouble looking at them yourself.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Jabberwock

avatar


PostSubject: Re: need help with a clan that fits the following criteria...   2013-04-09, 08:08

Hit and fade while gaining draw engine? Sound like Bermuda Raindear deck where you use Raindear effect to bounce Carine or Rio, then use their effect to draw a card, then call another Bermuda unit from your hand to attack again, haha.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
AegisCrow

avatar


PostSubject: Re: need help with a clan that fits the following criteria...   2013-04-09, 08:31

I'm going to second the Ildona build suggestion.

Shadow Paladins have a few neat toys for maintaining a consistent hand/field and Ildona's shtick is that he can retire two rearguards when he attacks after limit break for a small power boost and draws two cards.

he basically lets you swing with a rearguard, recycle it for more opportunity to block, and then reset your field next turn if necessary/possible. basically your mixed playstyle and draw engine criteria put together.

add in cards like Darkness Maiden Macha, who counterblasts as she's played to pull a booster from your deck into her same column, and Skull Witch Nemain, who counterblasts and has you discard a card when you play her in order to draw two cards, and you get a little bit more of what you're looking for.

Cursed Lancer helps out by unflipping damage on Vanguard hits, but he's a bit less viable in the Hamburger-Time meta because even with the best booster he can use, he falls short of that magic 18K number that forces 10K shields out of your opponent if they're crossridden.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
NightmareDraw

avatar


PostSubject: Re: need help with a clan that fits the following criteria...   2013-04-09, 08:33

im really not sure how my current budget would fit the shadow paladins


and bermuda triangle, is too cutesy for me


Last edited by NightmareDraw on 2013-04-09, 08:57; edited 1 time in total
Back to top Go down
View user profile
NightmareDraw

avatar


PostSubject: Re: need help with a clan that fits the following criteria...   2013-04-09, 08:53

Epideme wrote:
Didn't Alice make a quiz for this kind of problem? In any case there aren't so many clans that you would have trouble looking at them yourself.

the problem with the quiz is that i like agree with 2 or more for most options per item... sorry my english sucks...
Back to top Go down
View user profile
NightmareDraw

avatar


PostSubject: Re: need help with a clan that fits the following criteria...   2013-04-09, 09:27

ugh screw my thread... ill go back to my insects... i feel limited in playing cfv -__- ... the reason for this thread is because i feel limited... besides colony i really can't find any clan i like... but i feel limited, so i started asking for some clans based on a deck i really enjoyed in YGO
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Kirosnefakman

avatar


PostSubject: Re: need help with a clan that fits the following criteria...   2013-04-09, 09:42

You might like Tsukuyomi OTT, although it's expensive as fuck.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
NightmareDraw

avatar


PostSubject: Re: need help with a clan that fits the following criteria...   2013-04-09, 10:10

Kirosnefakman wrote:
You might like Tsukuyomi OTT, although it's expensive as fuck.


never have been a fan of ott except for draw power...
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Kirosnefakman

avatar


PostSubject: Re: need help with a clan that fits the following criteria...   2013-04-09, 10:15

Then you should add ''Pleasing art for me'' in the list.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
hawkeye

avatar


PostSubject: Re: need help with a clan that fits the following criteria...   2013-04-09, 10:29

I think Murakumo would be a good place to look. Cards like million rat can let you swarm an opponent and the deck is cheap. You said $30? I could probably send you a useable deck for $30, but it would likely only have one perfect guard. Then by the time Set 9 comes out you'll know if you like the clan. Personally I love the ninja look and feel. Makes me want to watch Naruto lol
Back to top Go down
View user profile
NightmareDraw

avatar


PostSubject: Re: need help with a clan that fits the following criteria...   2013-04-09, 10:33

Kirosnefakman wrote:
Then you should add ''Pleasing art for me'' in the list.

haha lol!

ott's has pleasing art... to pleasing that i find it a bit weird someways
Back to top Go down
View user profile
NightmareDraw

avatar


PostSubject: Re: need help with a clan that fits the following criteria...   2013-04-09, 10:37

hawkeye wrote:
I think Murakumo would be a good place to look. Cards like million rat can let you swarm an opponent and the deck is cheap. You said $30? I could probably send you a useable deck for $30, but it would likely only have one perfect guard. Then by the time Set 9 comes out you'll know if you like the clan. Personally I love the ninja look and feel. Makes me want to watch Naruto lol

well gameplay wise, i love murakumo and also bermuda triangle... but i really don't like my field filled with little idols... but murakumo is pretty good considering im always waiting for every manga release of naruto weekly...

about the art ... i have weird attraction to the megacolonies art... they're unique... i mean before i like idols and loli's and stuff, but they became too mainstream, it gotten annoying... but seeing lady bomb and paralyze madonna, actually brings a different feel to me, thats prolly why i played the colony... but i might look up on murakumo
Back to top Go down
View user profile
hawkeye

avatar


PostSubject: Re: need help with a clan that fits the following criteria...   2013-04-09, 10:46

I want the new cards in set 9 like "Demon Summoning Ninja, Jiraiya" and the "Stealth Beast, Gigantoad" he summons. The Toad looks like its straight out of Naruto and Jiraiya stands on his head lol
I don't even care that they probably wouldn't be in my deck... I just want Jiraiya
Back to top Go down
View user profile
AegisCrow

avatar


PostSubject: Re: need help with a clan that fits the following criteria...   2013-04-09, 12:47

NightmareDraw wrote:
im really not sure how my current budget would fit the shadow paladins

eh, they're not THAT expensive if you avoid trying to play their Hamburger-Time. you'd want two Machas, tops. that's ~$30 if I recall. one or two Nemains, so ~$13-$26 on amazon. Ildona's are generally cheap.

your most expensive cards are going to be your perfect guards at around $20 a pop last I checked, so you'd want to trade for them.

I did things the cheap way, though. traded in old MTG cards for store credit for one box, bought another as a self-present with my tax money. my brother bought a box when he got into the game. I have a pretty wide group to trade with, so i was able to throw it together pretty cheaply, buying Ildonas and Garurubaus as singles.

I guess as a revised conclusion, they're sorta expensive, but not that expensive, relatively speaking. Phantom Blaster Dragon still goes for about $40 for reasons I cannot fathom, and PBO is ~$30. the Ildona build is SO much cheaper, but $80 for a full set of perfect guards alone is understandably daunting.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
NightmareDraw

avatar


PostSubject: Re: need help with a clan that fits the following criteria...   2013-04-09, 13:32

hehe... you haven't read my post well... im on a stricts pauper budget as of now... judging by alice's definition of pauper budget by her quiz... its 50$ below, you might say im a budget or cheap player... mainly because i get bored easily and the possibility of that happening with my cfv career is huge
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Kasmania

avatar


PostSubject: Re: need help with a clan that fits the following criteria...   2013-04-09, 13:35

I'll go ahead and add my voice to the Murakumo crowd. Based on what you want from a clan, Murakumo is going to really be the closest you're going to get to "field swarming" beyond something like Gold Paladins (which is another chance-based beast altogether that I don't recommend myself). Because the clan is so undersupported right now (only 1 box, and 1 extra booster out in English), they're not very popular, and so you can probably pick up the cards you need for fairly cheap. If you like them, you can upgrade once box set 9 comes out.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
VesperGhoul

avatar


PostSubject: Re: need help with a clan that fits the following criteria...   2013-04-09, 14:08

NightmareDraw wrote:

-field control
-draw engine
-tool boxing
-technical/high options/many outs
-mixed playstyle

My suggestion is Shadow pallies, they have a pretty good hold of CA with their counterblast units, they can toolbox for boosters with things like macha, and is able to play the grindy matchups and quick beatdown strategies fairly well, they also have a decent game against cross-rides since both Illdona and PBO are able to hit good numbers against CR's. That and killing an opponent with PBD/PBO always feels epic. :p
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Alice
Admin
avatar


PostSubject: Re: need help with a clan that fits the following criteria...   2013-04-09, 18:02

Lich_Lord_Fortissimo wrote:
Don't apply Yu-Gi-Oh principles to Vanguard.
This. Please stop doing this. It looks embarrassing since none of those things apply to Vanguard. There aren't massively different play styles like this or shit that's really specific and has a ton of ways to do everything well. Deck gimmicks are all ultimately furthering the same goal in slightly different ways and they heavily specialize for most clans. Hell, there isn't even a true "control" like in YGO and MTG. Just like Pokemon doesn't have true control. Every deck is aggressive by the nature of the game since you can call freely until your field is full.

NightmareDraw wrote:
Epideme wrote:
Didn't Alice make a quiz for this kind of problem? In any case there aren't so many clans that you would have trouble looking at them yourself.

the problem with the quiz is that i like agree with 2 or more for most options per item... sorry my english sucks...
That's not how the quiz works. You're supposed to answer with whatever you best feel is the right answer for you. If there are two, logic dictates that you choose whichever one you lean toward most. The test should spit out a deck closest to what you want. Then the intro even says to retake it if you want more options, so just retake it and choose the second-best response. Obviously you'll get another deck you probably will like.

NightmareDraw wrote:
ugh screw my thread... ill go back to my insects... i feel limited in playing cfv -__- ... the reason for this thread is because i feel limited... besides colony i really can't find any clan i like... but i feel limited, so i started asking for some clans based on a deck i really enjoyed in YGO
Seriously, stop trying to apply cross-game concepts. You're just setting yourself up for a let down. Vanguard has plenty to offer if you would just stop treating it like a re-skin of YGO. The point of having other card games is that they're different, not the same. Vanguard is a mostly aggressive game even when decks specialize in endurance, toolboxing, or versatility. If you hate all variations on aggressive play, then consider that Vanguard may not be for you. You might have more fun by not attempting to torture yourself by trying to play competitively, cheaply, AND the style you want. Good luck getting all three of those unless you just love Spike Brothers and massive damage-greed.

hawkeye wrote:
I think Murakumo would be a good place to look. Cards like million rat can let you swarm an opponent and the deck is cheap. You said $30? I could probably send you a useable deck for $30, but it would likely only have one perfect guard. Then by the time Set 9 comes out you'll know if you like the clan. Personally I love the ninja look and feel. Makes me want to watch Naruto lol
Here's the problem with that suggestion: Murkaumo are completely trash until BT9 which hasn't even been announced yet, and English has all its releases until July/Aug covered. So it's at least 3-4 months before we even see Murakumo get competitive on their own, and I'm not even certain that A. They'll be competitive in BT9 given what lurks one month later, and B. That their main effective tactic will even be the same. For all we know, Murakumo becomes a tank build.

Now, Nubakumo on the other hand...but if this guy gets bored so easily, I don't know if Nightmaredraw will even put in the massive time and effort it takes to get good with it.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
newbishop

avatar


PostSubject: Re: need help with a clan that fits the following criteria...   2013-04-09, 19:57

Wasn't BT09 tentatively announced for late June?
Back to top Go down
View user profile
NightmareDraw

avatar


PostSubject: Re: need help with a clan that fits the following criteria...   2013-04-09, 20:16

Alice wrote:
Lich_Lord_Fortissimo wrote:
Don't apply Yu-Gi-Oh principles to Vanguard.
This. Please stop doing this. It looks embarrassing since none of those things apply to Vanguard. There aren't massively different play styles like this or shit that's really specific and has a ton of ways to do everything well. Deck gimmicks are all ultimately furthering the same goal in slightly different ways and they heavily specialize for most clans. Hell, there isn't even a true "control" like in YGO and MTG. Just like Pokemon doesn't have true control. Every deck is aggressive by the nature of the game since you can call freely until your field is full.

NightmareDraw wrote:
Epideme wrote:
Didn't Alice make a quiz for this kind of problem? In any case there aren't so many clans that you would have trouble looking at them yourself.

the problem with the quiz is that i like agree with 2 or more for most options per item... sorry my english sucks...
That's not how the quiz works. You're supposed to answer with whatever you best feel is the right answer for you. If there are two, logic dictates that you choose whichever one you lean toward most. The test should spit out a deck closest to what you want. Then the intro even says to retake it if you want more options, so just retake it and choose the second-best response. Obviously you'll get another deck you probably will like.

NightmareDraw wrote:
ugh screw my thread... ill go back to my insects... i feel limited in playing cfv -__- ... the reason for this thread is because i feel limited... besides colony i really can't find any clan i like... but i feel limited, so i started asking for some clans based on a deck i really enjoyed in YGO
Seriously, stop trying to apply cross-game concepts. You're just setting yourself up for a let down. Vanguard has plenty to offer if you would just stop treating it like a re-skin of YGO. The point of having other card games is that they're different, not the same. Vanguard is a mostly aggressive game even when decks specialize in endurance, toolboxing, or versatility. If you hate all variations on aggressive play, then consider that Vanguard may not be for you. You might have more fun by not attempting to torture yourself by trying to play competitively, cheaply, AND the style you want. Good luck getting all three of those unless you just love Spike Brothers and massive damage-greed.

hawkeye wrote:
I think Murakumo would be a good place to look. Cards like million rat can let you swarm an opponent and the deck is cheap. You said $30? I could probably send you a useable deck for $30, but it would likely only have one perfect guard. Then by the time Set 9 comes out you'll know if you like the clan. Personally I love the ninja look and feel. Makes me want to watch Naruto lol
Here's the problem with that suggestion: Murkaumo are completely trash until BT9 which hasn't even been announced yet, and English has all its releases until July/Aug covered. So it's at least 3-4 months before we even see Murakumo get competitive on their own, and I'm not even certain that A. They'll be competitive in BT9 given what lurks one month later, and B. That their main effective tactic will even be the same. For all we know, Murakumo becomes a tank build.

Now, Nubakumo on the other hand...but if this guy gets bored so easily, I don't know if Nightmaredraw will even put in the massive time and effort it takes to get good with it.

thank you for clearing all that out.... i think the problem with the game is ithe skill cap is low, compared to YGO and MTG... so i think a challenging deck or one that requires a lot of forethought might help me... and murakumo seems to do that... i think? i havent tried them out, but they look hard to use.... if not ill just take the test again
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Sponsored content




PostSubject: Re: need help with a clan that fits the following criteria...   

Back to top Go down
 
need help with a clan that fits the following criteria...
View previous topic View next topic Back to top 
Page 1 of 2Go to page : 1, 2  Next

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Moved: http://v-mundi.com - VMundi :: Newbie Lounge-
Jump to: