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 Dragonic Overlord The End vs Eradicator Dragonic Descendant (JPN)

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PostSubject: Dragonic Overlord The End vs Eradicator Dragonic Descendant (JPN)   2013-06-06, 08:23

I would like to know how the community thinks these 2 unit could match up with each other

The End is a huge pressure unit whereby it gives hand card advantage and passive game momentum toward the user of it.Burning Horn and Dragonic Overlord gives a good start for units that have 6-7k boost.

In my opinion.Hamburger-Time mechanics is not a problem to face especially in BT10-BT11 era
Units that offers 12k attacker and 11k is looming around drastically with the TD08 release and TD09 release.

This leads to a conclusion that Hamburger-Time Mechanics is irrelevant in OCG format.

Which leads to a card that has been restricted to 2 pieces in the OCG.And that is Eradicator Dragonic Descendant.

[AUTO](VC) Limit Break 4 (This ability is active if you have four or more damage):[Counter Blast (1) & Choose three cards with "Eradicator" in its card name from your hand, and discard them] At the beginning of the close step of the battle that this unit attacked, if the attack did not hit during that battle, you may pay the cost. If you do, [Stand] this unit, and gets [Critical]+1 until end of turn. This ability cannot be used for the rest of that turn.
[ACT](VC):[Counter Blast (2) - Cards with "Eradicator" in its card name] This unit gets [Power]+5000 until end of turn.
[CONT](VC/RC): Lord (If you have a unit without a same clan as this unit, this unit cannot attack



Now this unit is extremely dangerous.A self standing ability that requires opponent to protect the initial attack.With an especial to top off it becomes quite clear that it ignores Hamburger-Time numbers at all cost A card that offer such huge pressure during LB stages is no joke especially when you are up against units that can do the same.


The reason why Descendant could match up with The End is because of the stages that it requires to be active.I seen Gauntlet Buster with Descendant build together and it combo that really wreaks opponent hand card advantage with the LB stages being so proliferate in the current OCG format.

Now.Aside from all of these possible scenario posed by those 2 units that impacted the entire era of CFVG I would like to ask the community and the admin a couple of question

What do you think of Eradicator Dragonic Descendant?
From scale 1-10 Rate Descendant power level
Do you think that Hamburger-Time is still unbeatable?

Discuss.




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PostSubject: Re: Dragonic Overlord The End vs Eradicator Dragonic Descendant (JPN)   2013-06-06, 09:08

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In my opinion.Hamburger-Time mechanics is not a problem to face especially in BT10-BT11 era

Answering Bullshit with more Bullshit doesn't accomplish anything.

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Units that offers 12k attacker and 11k is looming around drastically with the TD08 release and TD09 release.

We're sacrificing aesthetics for power vanilla. Every deck will essentially do the same thing outside of the Vanguard. The existence of counters indicates the countered card is likely a problem.

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Do you think that Hamburger-Time is still unbeatable?

No one here has ever claimed that.

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This leads to a conclusion that Hamburger-Time Mechanics is irrelevant in OCG format.

No. Not really. I mean hell, Ji Endo, Latina, Maelstrom, PBO, Goddess Amaterasu were all over during the Cray Wars which was an unlimited format.

Descendant is retarded though.
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PostSubject: Re: Dragonic Overlord The End vs Eradicator Dragonic Descendant (JPN)   2013-06-06, 09:28

Tell you what. I have a proxied The End deck which I've perfected since June of last year (so a full year of testing) and I printed Descendant cards recently. I'll do my Descendant deck optimization testing early just to get a near perfect deck, then pit them against each other in a gauntlet and record my results as usual. Once I do the experiment, I'll come up with a theory that fits the data.

But please do us all a favor and READ THE GODDAMN ABOUT PAGE AND STOP INSERTING YOUR PERSONAL OPINIONS INTO ACADEMIC DISCUSSION.
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PostSubject: Re: Dragonic Overlord The End vs Eradicator Dragonic Descendant (JPN)   2013-06-06, 09:39

Alice.I am very sorry if I did not follow a certain rules of the page.Please educate me on how to improve my writing or certain things I miss out.And I also apologize for posting personal opinions.I did read the page and I think I understand a handful of it.But if there is anything I miss out.Do pm me and I will try my best to rectify my mistake.

3XXXDDD.Thanks for the reply.I guess it really depends on the momentum of how the gameplay is lay out and the composure of the players that react to certain conditions.


Descendant is not that retarded actually.It got it's well deserved restriction with Dragonic Overlord, The End unrestricted +Dauntless support.Surprising it's still falls back behind the current OCG format given how Japanese pro scene utilize those non-Eradicator units like Dragonic Deathscythe and Rising Phoenix.

Oh and by the way.Can you explain your definition of sacrificing aesthetics for power vanilla? I don't understand that part well enough
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PostSubject: Re: Dragonic Overlord The End vs Eradicator Dragonic Descendant (JPN)   2013-06-06, 09:46

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I guess it really depends on the momentum of how the gameplay is lay out and the composure of the players that react to certain conditions.

I'm going to lock this until you learn how to listen what we're saying. There is no point in discussion with someone who seems to be incredibly willing to be a brick wall.

I'm also locking it because those words basically mean nothing or come down to some poisoning the well bullshit about player skill.
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