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Klaus

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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-12-10, 03:31

I think it's people treating the game like Yugioh. Often times if you don't use a card/skill when it comes up you just lose it later or it becomes less effective later.

Also people thinking "well these two VG attacks while he's at three damage can certainly win me the game!"
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-12-10, 06:34

lolno
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-12-10, 07:23

Anyone else think that that heal trigger saved Brandon's ass?

It's like his deck just told him not to LB.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-12-10, 07:41

He's so fucking LB-happy. I agree that if it had not come sooner, he woul've straight up lost the game. Too much minusing too quickly.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-12-10, 14:48

Klaus wrote:
Well, you let a simple man become "king" and it'll go to his head.

Wasn't able to watch or see comments, but it looks like I didn't miss much.

Well here it is if you did,

www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4pv1Um_Mzak#t=211s
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-12-10, 19:49

the bro fist was pretty awesome im not gonna lie.... >.>
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-12-10, 19:51

Alice wrote:
TehNACHO wrote:
"Next year is going to be different"

Yep, instead of all Gold Paladin, it's all DOTE.

Speaking of DOTE, goddamn did the DOTE players misplay a lot.
This
and THIS. 3D and I have a hypothesis of why no one in JP is afraid of Crossrides. Because none of them KNOW HOW.
>End player has End and Overlord in hand
>Rides End Turn 3 and calls Overlord

WELP GO FUCK YOURSELF RETARD. Your opponent couldn't make 18k columns and you didn't even make 17k (vs MLB) with that play so you're fucking braindead.

Seriously guys. Why do people make the most obvious mistakes in tournament play? Every video I've seen has just been egregious error after another.

And Smith doesn't get off Scott-free either. Know how I know Smith will use Duke? He has 4 damage and 2 unflipped damage. Jesus fuck man.





Wait... did this actually happen? They rode DOTE and called Overlord? I REALLY hope you're kidding... I could hand my roommate who has never played the game before a DOTE build, give him a 30 second crash course on the game and then he would fare better... I DONT GET IT.



As for Brandon Smith, His action are fairly obvious, but somehow they work. I'm actually shocked the an SDD deck won the World Championships...
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-12-10, 19:53

I'm fairly shocked that that Pellinore player made it to Worlds.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-12-10, 19:54

Not only that he called TWO OVERLORDS, one of which HAD NO BOOST and COULDN'T HIT THAT TURN ANYWAY!
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-12-10, 20:36

Please stop, I might cry.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-12-10, 22:27

He didnt use Pellinore during the Oceana qualifiers in Singapore. He was using SDD instead.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-12-11, 01:03

That shit won't fly once Stern is out. He works like Reijy with no set up.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-12-11, 01:07

Stern dominates future meta? I like it.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-12-11, 01:24

Stern doesn't dominate the future meta. I dominate the future meta.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-12-11, 15:05

Nah, the future Meta though, especially with the Crossride restrictions will be won by Nova Grapplers every where. Get on the bandwagon now! Stern and eventually Perfect Raizer will be awesome <3
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-12-11, 15:19

>11k defense everywhere
>Nonensical crit
>Extra free standing for advantage
>Game ending boss-ass vanguards
>Almost no resource use by any vanguards, leaving shittons of draw room
>Unflip spam for even more of that nonsense
>Dicktons of equally viable builds
>Limit break avoidance


Jesus christ Novas, you scary.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-12-11, 15:20

Beast Deity Cross-Ride is also a thing (and a fucking good one at that).
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-12-11, 15:25

Im so glad I stuck it out, Been waiting for this day. Tier 1 here we come. Fuck you Goldilocks and your bandwagon :)
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-12-19, 10:07

So, does anyone information on the following,

Top 8 Decks of Hong Kong & Taiwan?
5th/6th/7th/8th decks of Mexico, Indonesia?
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-12-21, 14:00

WC 2012 Finals Official Video ~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_G9_clm99c (with sound and no commentating).
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-12-21, 17:04

Maybe picking up the vibes wrong but is there alot of hate for the players from you lot on this site? Seems like its claimed none of them are any good at the game by the way you speak.

If im wrong feel free to correct me, as im only inquiring.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-12-21, 17:19

Duce wrote:
Maybe picking up the vibes wrong but is there alot of hate for the players from you lot on this site? Seems like its claimed none of them are any good at the game by the way you speak.

If im wrong feel free to correct me, as im only inquiring.
No, it's not hate. It's criticism. When people misplay, we point it out to better share our understanding of the game. Anyone who wants to get better wants criticism. When someone makes seriously egregious misplays, and regularly, and at high level events, that's just indicative of a game whose player base has a low skill curve. Most likely because the game is new, but also because lots of the players are stubborn and ignore evidence.

Hate would solve nothing and only further some arbitrary and useless ego boosting. Academics are centered around the ability to be called out by your peers.

Also if you look into the claims we make, you'll find that they're not baseless.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-12-21, 17:27

Thanks for answer, was curious as seemed alot of negative comments posted in the thread about the level of play.

Hopefully with a few more sets and another year people will ge tthe hang of the game then :)
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-12-21, 17:29

Duce wrote:
Thanks for answer, was curious as seemed alot of negative comments posted in the thread about the level of play.

Hopefully with a few more sets and another year people will ge tthe hang of the game then :)
Unfortunately the negativity is deserved. Think of Vanguard like a sport. Is it unusual for sports fans to discuss different players and strategies both negatively and positively? When you're in the big time and you make bad plays, regardless of the game, people will notice and comment on them. I'd want people to destroy me if I did these kinds of things at these events.
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