BT-10 Triumphant Return of the King of Knights

Well, Ashlie has been revealed, and yes, it is a break ride (CALLED IT!). When you ride a Royal Paladin over it, the Vanguard gains 10k and a crit until the end of the turn.
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I don't know how to respond to this.

You may want to think about another public letter to Bushiroad, Alice. So far, the uberbroken cards seem to be Goldcelot, Bad-End Dragger, and Eradicator, Dragonic Descendant. MAYBE Ashlie, I'm tired right now and can't tell if it's broken or not. Salome seems strong, but not strong enough to break the game. Dignified Gold Dragon and the like are OK I guess. They're not broken, and they don't get the +2000 if they are the Vanguard, but they make Marhaus sad (D:).

Anyone else diggin' the Genesis?

Let's just rename royals to "lol 3crit"
I'm getting a tingly feeling just thinking about z/x coming out here.

gettineggywithit wrote:

Well, Ashlie has been revealed, and yes, it is a break ride (CALLED IT!). When you ride a Royal Paladin over it, the Vanguard gains 10k and a crit until the end of the turn.
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I don't know how to respond to this.

You may want to think about another public letter to Bushiroad, Alice. So far, the uberbroken cards seem to be Goldcelot, Bad-End Dragger, and Eradicator, Dragonic Descendant. MAYBE Ashlie, I'm tired right now and can't tell if it's broken or not. Salome seems strong, but not strong enough to break the game. Dignified Gold Dragon and the like are OK I guess. They're not broken, and they don't get the +2000 if they are the Vanguard, but they make Marhaus sad (D:).

Anyone else diggin' the Genesis?

At least I can perfect guard it without it standing on me without guaranteed +5000 to everything or even more/stronger attacks.

Marhaus now knows how Bors felt when Palamedes slapped him.

Halo Liberator, Mark
Curve Blade Liberator, Yoseph
Liberator of Hope, Epona

I think I speak for everyone when I yell FUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!!!!!
So now EVERY card in the deck can viably be a Liberator, as long as you use 4 draw triggers.
Special CBs are now normal CBs.
The new Alfred is now universally better than the original AND Garmore.
Fuck it. Ban new Alfred, make a non-broken Liberator main, and leave it at that. I can see Liberators not being violently broken, but this is NOT how it happens.

And what happened to 11ks becoming 9ks? Lord is bullcrap and I don't like it.

I don't think a letter will matter. Thing is Alice has admitted Neo Alfred isn't so strong it has an edge over absolutely everything, and it isn't practical to Limit Ride Breaks because they are sack plays with no penalty for failure.

Only thing we CAN do is just try to have a nerfed Crossride Format and simply roll with it.

Two new Eradicator Triggers (hey 3D, your Ji Endo Junior deck can be re-built now) and something else.

It's the 12000 Grade 2 Attacker for having an Eradicator Vanguard.

...don't we already have that and it's called Spark Rain Dragon?

What are the other triggers called?

New genesis clan seems to soul charge in bulk making it pretty inconsistent.

gettineggywithit wrote:

Halo Liberator, Mark
Curve Blade Liberator, Yoseph
Liberator of Hope, Epona

I think I speak for everyone when I yell FUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!!!!!
So now EVERY card in the deck can viably be a Liberator, as long as you use 4 draw triggers.
Special CBs are now normal CBs.
The new Alfred is now universally better than the original AND Garmore.
Fuck it. Ban new Alfred, make a non-broken Liberator main, and leave it at that. I can see Liberators not being violently broken, but this is NOT how it happens.

And what happened to 11ks becoming 9ks? Lord is bullcrap and I don't like it.

What I mostly like is that Gold Paladin players planning to build Liberators will have to hunt the world for 4 more Perfect Guards under the Liberator name, otherwise it might jeaporadize them in some game they damage check a non-Liberator Mark and have to counterblast.

Lich_Lord_Fortissimo wrote:

I don't think a letter will matter. Thing is Alice has admitted Neo Alfred isn't so strong it has an edge over absolutely everything, and it isn't practical to Limit Ride Breaks because they are sack plays with no penalty for failure.

Only thing we CAN do is just try to have a nerfed Crossride Format and simply roll with it.

Who said anything about limiting them? I mean that they should be outright banned. Gone. Not allowed in tournament play in any quantity. Ever. At all. Shouldn't have even be printed. Can't be used ever. Period.
I'm repeating that to show how much I want it to happen.
And yeah, I guess Neo Alfred isn't so OP, even if you really aren't limited by what to blast. His power break should have a cost, though. Like CB1 to get the power until the end of the turn.
Edit: ONCE PER TURN, until the end of the turn.

Seems like only the 8k vanillas are left untouched.

another functional reprint perfect guard.trying not to rage at that alone.

Okay, apparently the 'something else' I mentioned earlier is actually a Chain-Attack Sutherland clone, except you need an Eradicator VG to gain 3k.

I like Genesis as a concept, though hopefully it doesn't shit all over OTT too much by stealing all its units.

Spikes support is looking good. They haven't fucked that up
New Royals actually look fun and I've never liked RP before.
(I'm purposefully ignoring Liberators)

Anyone wanting to discuss Archetype and Break Ride balancing for our format, please join me here:
https://vmundi.forumotion.com/t385-vmf-detailed-discussion#7605

I think Jewel Knights need a 9k booster or a 10k vanguard booster in order to let Salome hit 21k. If you shove a Toypugal behind it means you need front row Jewel Knights which can be hard to keep and means no Palamedes.

Tiffany is kinda cool. She's 1 turn Crossride insurance.

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I ******* love Jewel Knights, they can dance around the meta with Salome's critical on top of either Ashley's ride break or 12 Critical which Jewel Knights can easily deck because they spit advantage out of their ass with Salome or Jewelkane which allows for hand conservation.

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This card is like an answer to EVERYTHING in the expected meta, especially if it gets it's own Personal Jewel Knight Booster as well having it reach 23000 for Cross-Rides.

For those who aren't getting it, you get to Limit Break 4, keep your Opponent at 3 Damage unless they want to risk 3 Critical (Normal + Limit + Checked) and bully their rearguards with yours.

I think I might like Jewel Knights a bit too much but goddamn Salome deserves the love.

Epideme: Salome is a proper Limit Breaker Unit for Royal Paladins and know what all of they get an 11000 Personal Booster! This one also most likely Jewel Knight named as well so Salome can Superior Call it.

3XXXDDD wrote:

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I ******* love Jewel Knights, they can dance around the meta with Salome's critical on top of either Ashley's ride break or 12 Critical which Jewel Knights can easily deck because they spit advantage out of their ass with Salome or Jewelkane which allows for hand conservation.

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This card is like an answer to EVERYTHING in the expected meta, especially if it gets it's own Personal Jewel Knight Booster as well having it reach 23000 for Cross-Rides.

For those who aren't getting it, you get to Limit Break 4, keep your Opponent at 3 Damage unless they want to risk 3 Critical (Normal + Limit + Checked) and bully their rearguards with yours.

I think I might like Jewel Knights a bit too much but goddamn Salome deserves the love.

Epideme: Salome is a proper Limit Breaker Unit for Royal Paladins and know what all of they get an 110000 Personal Booster! This one also most likely Jewel Knight named as well so Salome can Superior Call it.

Wow, 110000 power? Isn't that kind of broken?

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would like to remind everyone that Death Anchor/Dark Lord of Abyss with Devil Child can hit for the exact same numbers as Liberator of the Round Table before and after limit break, but Anchor gets an extra critical. Yes the format’s changing, but it’s changing from four damage on, the numbers before that point are the same.

have fun guys.

Donkay: I'm referring to Charjgal clones, 6000 Base, Soulblast 1 +5000 boost to a particular Limit Break Unit.

3XXXDDD wrote:

Donkay: I'm referring to Charjgal clones, 6000 Base, Soulblast 1 +5000 boost to a particular Limit Break Unit.

I know, I know. Just a bit of a jest.

WELP!

Anyway, the lore for Genesis is that they are a new subsidiary of Oracle Think Tank after seeing apocalypta future and so the Genesis are created & employed to stop that from ever happening, so I assume that the Soulblast-Soulcharge cycle is a correlation of opening and closing time vortexes.

Waiting on dat Revelation clan.

But man, I'm just hoping that they'll have an entirely different purpose in mind, what with all the soulcharging and drawing. GP and NArukami at least had distinctly different purposes than their predecessors if you look hard enough.