Forgotten Ninjas in the Darkness

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What are even the chances you get Dreadmaster and Chigasumi in the same column? Why is Voidmaster missing? Why even are Nubatama in Dark Irregulars when neither benefits the other?

asdwdhwudh. I don't know what even words thinking is. So here's a HAIKU:

pulling with target
You discovered the elbows
before the money

Chances of it aren't that bad I get it often but maybe I'm just lucky. Voidmaster isn't good since I have Amon and it on the rear guard is bad. It's been testing well together but again I could just be lucky and its for casual and not anyway supposed to be tourament heavy.

123Deckbox wrote:

Chances of it aren't that bad I get it often but maybe I'm just lucky. Voidmaster isn't good since I have Amon and it on the rear guard is bad. It's been testing well together but again I could just be lucky and its for casual and not anyway supposed to be tourament heavy.

Luck does not exist on this forum.

Also, it's about deck synergy between the two clans.

These questions are what you should ask yourself when building a mixed clan deck:

What does Dark Irregulars bring to the table that help Nubatama? What do Nubatama bring to the table to help Dark Irregulars?
How does DI infringe on the Nubatama strategy? How does Nubatama infringe on the Dark Irregular's strategy?

I could answer those for you, but it would be better for it to try and answer them yourself. It will improve your deck building mentality.

You don't need to answer them for me. As far as I've seen no decks work well together but this has been working fine. Dark Irregulars bring power with Amon. Nubatama brings hand destruction. DI only infringe on the Nubatama strategy by soul charging the things they need somethimes but then you just play straight DI. Nubatama infringe on DI by not soul charging but they can do that plenty with the soul charging in this. May I have some more suggestions.

Bad points I'm seeing:

A) Missing out on Voidmaster severely cuts your chances of using the Nuba "strategy". You have a pretty strict 4:4 Nuba-booster:Nuba-attacker ratio out of your remaining 49 card deck. Otherwise Dread is "just" a 7k booster and Chigasumi is... see below.

B) Chigasumi himself is basically inferior in every way to the G2 Amon (11k attacker with 6 soul) except that he makes a boost target for Dreadmaster.

C) G3 Amon cannot eat your Nubatamas to kill an enemy RG. If any of your Nubas end up in the soul, they don't give him power. If you don't consider the first point a problem because you're saving your CB usage for Nubatama then you may as well run something that has a 11k defending body, except that would necessitate not running Nuba and 2 of those candidates (Beelzebub and Death Anchor) require specifically DI in soul.

D) With the rate DI can soulcharge and the lesser count of Nubas in your whole deck, chances are probably high that you will not see this "combo" inclusion come to fruition that often. Nova-Nuba can also have this issue with Mr. Invincible as VG but he can make up for it due to damage unflip. Instead compare this to Kagero-Nuba or Murakumo-Nuba; what are you doing differently/better?

Aside) Nuba does not "infringe" on DI by "not soul charging". They infringe on DI by becoming a useless part of the soul. Take a look at every DI with the statement "if you have a DI vanguard" or "if you have x DI cards in the soul". Those are chances that your measly 8 units will end up in the soul and not benefit the deck in any way, except hey you deck thinned.

What's wrong with "straight DI" that it "needs" Nubatama?

What kind of sample size have you done? What kind of decks/players have you tested against?

You should also run less PG's when running mixed-clans because they require both the same clan for cost and target. I would recommend that you look at Alice's Nubatama clan analysis on the blog as well for some more insight.

I was in the middle of writing a long post but then noticed Edalborez pretty much covered all the points I was going to make. lol :V

junri wrote:

You should also run less PG's when running mixed-clans because they require both the same clan for cost and target. I would recommend that you look at Alice's Nubatama clan analysis on the blog as well for some more insight.

I was in the middle of writing a long post but then noticed Edalborez pretty much covered all the points I was going to make. lol :V

Except in this case since the vanguard will be same-clan and most of the cards in the deck are DI. 4 would work there.

What I want to see are the probability of getting both different Nubatama by Turn 4 posted here. Five is a bit late in the game for it but I want to know. If people make claims about its chances, then the numbers should be no problem right?

y not combine nubatama with murakumo (considering they were supose to be murakumo in the first place >.>