WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread

Based Graph. And it's a least somewhat varied!

Also be sure to load up on carbs and lean protein, avoid fats and sugars because they cause drowsiness .Bring nuts, granola etc. to stack up on in between games, and if you're running on E after 9 hours of play, just go for broke and bring a 5 hour for an emergency final technique.

Trail Mix. Got it!

France updated with delicious pie chart and a straight top 8 list.

NJ/NY stats if anyone cares~

3XXXDDD wrote:

NJ/NY stats if anyone cares~

With as many DQ's there were in the top 8... it's kind of a moot point, though yet another GP top showing just continues to show us all what we've known for too long now.

Atlana updated.

Judges were good, one single DQ during the entire tournament (deliberate cheating it seems).

ANGEL FEATHERS CAME FOURTH!!!

Angel Feathers that placed 4th in Atlanta.

4 Chief Nurse, Shamsiel
3 The Phoenix, Calamity Flame

4 Million Ray Pegasus
3 Core Memory Armaros
2 Love Machine Gun
2 Holy Zone, Penemue

4 Battle Cupid Nociel
4 Burst Shot Bethnael
4 Thousand Ray Pegasus
3 Pure Keeper Requiel

1 Hope Child Turiel
4 Bouquet's Toss Manager
4 Sunny Smile Angel
4 Rocket Dash Unicorn
4 Critical Hit Angel

If he ran 4 perfect guards, 1 more Calamity, and less Cupid Nociel, he'd probably have done a bit better. Interesting Special Intercept tech, though I don't think it needs the extra guard more than extra swapping/offense/card advantage.

Alice wrote:

If he ran 4 perfect guards, 1 more Calamity, and less Cupid Nociel, he'd probably have done a bit better. Interesting Special Intercept tech, though I don't think it needs the extra guard more than extra swapping/offense/card advantage.

I wouldn't be as sure if only because of the way he lost was sack-tastic and brutal.

Vs Nova Grapplers
AF attacks for final Damage
NG lands a Sixth Damage Heal

Next turn
NG Attack with both rear columns
NG Attacks with Asura Kaiser checking two Grade 3s standing two Death Army G1 and the Rears they were boosting.

I'm currently using Mastema in that extra Grade 2 spot because it's a handy extra 20000 column late game or at worst 11000 attacker. I've tried Penemue, people got very distracted by it but other than that, meh.

3 Phoenix, 3 Armaros thing is odd though. I'm adamant on maxing both.

3XXXDDD wrote:

Angel Feathers that placed 4th in Atlanta.

4 Chief Nurse, Shamsiel
3 The Phoenix, Calamity Flame

4 Million Ray Pegasus
3 Core Memory Armaros
2 Love Machine Gun
2 Holy Zone, Penemue

4 Battle Cupid Nociel
4 Burst Shot Bethnael
4 Thousand Ray Pegasus
3 Pure Keeper Requiel

1 Hope Child Turiel
4 Bouquet's Toss Manager
4 Sunny Smile Angel
4 Rocket Dash Unicorn
4 Critical Hit Angel

Oh wow, that deck is only marginally retarded. PROGRESS!!! If he maxed out Pure and Calamity and cut out some of his clutter he might actually have been a GOOD deckbuilder.


And looking at the Championship decks, I can see they're gettong saner. Good news for the Vmundi Army guys!

I hope it's not a fluke and people are actually getting saner. I'm tired of people being bad at Vanguard. Vocally so. With fallacies and active retardation.

You're doing the best you can Alice. I'm just worried about what'll happen once the Bushivetr hits.

SoulKaiser wrote:

You're doing the best you can Alice. I'm just worried about what'll happen once the Bushivetr hits.

Bushivetr? Bushi Veterans?

Also I'm confident it would have won the Tournament if it weren't for that sack-tastic Nova Grappler.

Updated with Osaka Results. Woot! More Angel Feathers!

Atlanta stats up

Well it seems we got some Vmundi fans in the ATL! :D If you're going to use overhyped clan, at least use it right!

Know what I think is weird? No kagero have placed stateside. I figured they would be doing better.

Eien's face when Kagero isn't top tier hueheuehhue

Coming straight from the source

1st Ezel/Garmore
2nd Luquier Tamer
3rd/4th Duke/Spike

292 participants (apparently the biggest European Qualifier, probably because of the Euro's afterwards being an attractive thing to be at).

Or because it's really easy to get short public trans to an event and there are a lot of people in a relatively smaller area.

Alice wrote:

Or because it's really easy to get short public trans to an event and there are a lot of people in a relatively smaller area.

Well there was a lot of Foreign people there. So I'm assuming some were here for the Euro's being on afterwards.

Anyway, go Pale Moon!

I just want to say I am very disappointed with you Alice. I never really ventured onto the forum and stuck to the articles (didn't really read many but some people linked me to a couple.). But now that I have ventured here, I just have to say that you should be ashamed, your bashing of the players who topped/won the Qualifiers (including myself) and players in general just proves that you should just stop. Your not as good as you think you are, and if you want to prove otherwise instead of bashing people on your forum why don't you actually go to the qualifiers and accomplish something.

Your assessment of many cards is incorrect (Spectral Duke and Crossrides being some of them), and your just overly opinionated and think your the fucking best. Prove yourself, and then maybe you can talk shit. I may agree with you on somethings, and I appreciate your mathematical breakdowns on odds/ridechains/etc, as it helps a lot of players and that is what a blog for a game should do, but just because you understand all of that does not make you the best player ever, the're are many other players that have the base concepts down just as good as you do.

veldrien wrote:

I just want to say I am very disappointed with you Alice. I never really ventured onto the forum and stuck to the articles (didn't really read many but some people linked me to a couple.). But now that I have ventured here, I just have to say that you should be ashamed, your bashing of the players who topped/won the Qualifiers (including myself) and players in general just proves that you should just stop. Your not as good as you think you are, and if you want to prove otherwise instead of bashing people on your forum why don't you actually go to the qualifiers and accomplish something.

Your assessment of many cards is incorrect (Spectral Duke and Crossrides being some of them), and your just overly opinionated and think your the fucking best. Prove yourself, and then maybe you can talk shit. I may agree with you on somethings, and I appreciate your mathematical breakdowns on odds/ridechains/etc, as it helps a lot of players and that is what a blog for a game should do, but just because you understand all of that does not make you the best player ever, the're are many other players that have the base concepts down just as good as you do.

Winning 5-6 times in one event doesn't make you good either. That's an inductive reasoning fallacy. I don't give a shit about your disappointment. Watch the video. Look at the abominable misplays and general poor conduct of the players. Vanguard is still new enough that yes, it's possible most people at an event are bad or subpar. It's actually funny that you chose me to single out versus everyone else voicing the same opinions.

If you think my assessment of a card is wrong, create a thread and debate me. End of discussion. Claiming superiority like that is no better than the actions you (falsely) projected onto me. If you believe I have to "prove myself", then step back and take a moment to remember Burden of Proof. You made a claim just now and didn't show any evidence. You asserted I was wrong. Show evidence. Last thing I'm going to say through all your wild unsubstantiated claims: Don't make the logical error of assuming a 5-7 round tournament means someone is the best in their region. There are way too many factors that aren't being controlled for and that sample size is so laughably small that if you presented it to a scientist, they wouldn't even bother looking at your work. You can't run an individual as an experiment 5 times and expect a significant result from them. Especially when you haven't controlled for player skill, deck strength, chance, and people who abstained from play or were disqualified.

By the way: Being hostile to someone (without any facts or evidence) is never going to get any point across to them. Except perhaps that they should judge you as a hostile person.

So I should just silently watch from the shadows as you constantly make false statements about the people who have actually done well? Again you more or less said that your better then us and its not very hard to do what we have done yet you have yet to do it.