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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 9 Empty2012-11-04, 15:53

American Nationals
12 Gold Paladin
2 Narukami
1 Spike Brothers
1 Kagero
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 9 Empty2012-11-04, 16:23

Alice wrote:
So Granblue can't go to nationals and 3rd place Lawkeeper is going instead because Bushiroad are fucking wankers and make up arbitrary bullshit. They have some completely asshat pulled excuse for not paying their travel expenses like "it's too close to the date of nationals". Whatever the FUCK that means. Since it has absolutely nothing to do with jack of dick anything.

That completely sours the Granblue victory.

It wasn't like the Granblue player could stay, though - from what he said earlier that day he came to have fun and see how far he could go with his deck. Which apparently was much much further than he expected, as he made an arrangement that only allowed him to participate on Saturday. 'Tis a shame - I would've liked to see him compete in the National qualifiers, but I'm simply glad to see an underrepresented clan on the podium - honestly, I saw more Angel Feather decks (excluding my own), then Granblue.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 9 Empty2012-11-04, 19:47

3XXXDDD wrote:
American Nationals
12 Gold Paladin
2 Narukami
1 Spike Brothers
1 Kagero

Top 4
1 Spectral Duke
2 Bunny
1 Narukami (This guy from Mexico is a hot-shot)
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 9 Empty2012-11-04, 20:37

3XXXDDD wrote:

Top 4
1 Spectral Duke
2 Bunny
1 Narukami (This guy from Mexico is a hot-shot)

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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 9 Empty2012-11-04, 20:45

The 1 Kagero should've been Granblue :|

Anyway, that Nats was fucking boring due to hurrdurr all Golds.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 9 Empty2012-11-04, 20:54

Top 2
Bunny vs Duke
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 9 Empty2012-11-04, 20:59

3XXXDDD wrote:
Top 2
Bunny vs Duke

Ok, I need why's.

From what I've learned this leads me to belive that:

A. Everyone is still terrible, which is why poor decks do so well, despite being the worse option.

B. Vanguard is Sack: The TCG

or C. All of the above.

Where are the royal pallies? Where are the Kagero? The freaking OTT! But 2 sack decks top 2 at nats? THE. HELL.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 9 Empty2012-11-04, 21:13

Everyone is still terrible. The Duke player I've actually met (Brandon) and he's pretty good to quote Skitheryx who was a judge at his WCQ.
Spoiler:
. So yeah, mostly people who have some skill can win pretty easily in a game where everyone still sucks majorly.

It doesn't help that the NON-Nats tournament format did make it Sack: The TCG
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 9 Empty2012-11-04, 21:20

Brandon Smith (who I believe is Veldrien when he here) takes Nationals with Spectral Duke.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 9 Empty2012-11-04, 21:36

Which is why I'd like some more varied OP.

Right now the only proving grounds we have are local tournaments (Worth nothing) and Nat Qualifiers (Which are few in number, despite the amount of people who go there)

With only a few major tournaments (Really only 1) how can we really forge skill-based players?

At the VERY least, turn the tournament into a swiss-based format! Single rounds? Fine, I know games can go long. But people who caught a bad break because of 2 losses doesn't make them un-skilled. Especially in a game where an opponent can win by flipping over 2 crits.

Is there any place where we can have a dialog with the people who make the game? A twitter, something?
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 9 Empty2012-11-04, 21:45

http://bushiroad.fm/ - May be of some use.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 9 Empty2012-11-05, 15:51

NA National Finals. (Awful video)


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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 9 Empty2012-11-05, 17:36

That was surprisingly well-played by both opponents. I'd liked to have seen less blatant sack like not only getting off Duke's 1/3 chance full chain but also not getting off a Double Crit at a 2.25% chance as well. The player on the right was especially impressive for being able to come back from that and deal the damage to make them equal. Sadly, due to his loss in turns (due to damage disadvantage) he had less time to plus naturally and his opponent (Brandon Smith) ended up with a huge hand which he could expend at any time. It didn't help that Brandon was able to further smash his opponent's hand down with the Limit Break (and another was ready). The player on the right tried the same tactic, but not only is Pellinore just not capable of the same destruction as Duke, his opponent already had a bigger lead even if it was. Those final two turns were tense and impressive.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 9 Empty2012-11-05, 17:39

You are also forgetting the Stage 2 Column out of nowhere from the Duke ride.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 9 Empty2012-11-05, 17:48

3XXXDDD wrote:
You are also forgetting the Stage 2 Column out of nowhere from the Duke ride.

I really wish Gold Paladins weren't so sacky so we could comment on the players' actual skills. For now all we can do is go "wow those were nice crits and random calls you had there...and uh, good job taking advantage of it! or something"

Feels hollow and meaningless.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 9 Empty2012-11-05, 18:32

Granblue deck list that took Anaheim WCQ~


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Will-san, daisuki desu~
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 9 Empty2012-11-07, 08:31

750 people were participating in LA WCQ.

750! That's like your average attendance for a YCS.

http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/24339.html
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 9 Empty2012-11-07, 14:49

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"[Los Angeles Qualifiers]
There was one deck that caught the eye of English version Cardfight!! Vanguard Producer Shunichi.

This deck only had Grade 0 and Grade 1 cards.


Deck Title: Manguard Rushdown
Qty Card No. Card Name
1 x BT02/024EN Mecha Trainer
4 x BT02/046EN Cheerful Lynx
4 x BT02/045EN Sonic Breaker
4 x BT02/048EN Silence Joker
4 x EB03/023EN Kungfu Kicker
4 x EB03/003EN Reckless Express
4 x BT01/075EN Wonder Boy
4 x EB03/021EN Medical Manager
4 x EB03/024EN Gyro Slinger
2 x BT01/077EN Dandy Guy, Romario
3 x BT01/048EN Embodiment of Armor, Bahr
3 x BT01/066EN Sonic Noa
3 x BT01/054EN Oracle Guardian, Gemini
3 x BT01/060EN Tough Boy
3 x BT02/077EN Phantom Block

This deck managed to go 4-2 at LA Qualifiers."
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 9 Empty2012-11-07, 15:12

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK

Did he just sack, or the opponents got unlucky, or BOTH? Shame it didn't win the whole thing, that would have been the most hilarious thing ever.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 9 Empty2012-11-07, 18:11

Its Durandal. Hes one of us and very good
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 9 Empty2012-11-07, 19:44

Lich_Lord_Fortissimo wrote:
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK

Did he just sack, or the opponents got unlucky, or BOTH? Shame it didn't win the whole thing, that would have been the most hilarious thing ever.

It is actually quite clever if you think about it. Most people try to minimize their chances of getting a G0 in the opening hand. So most of the time on turns 1 and 2 they will lack a 10k guard.

If you go second and you fill your entire field the first chance you get to attack, you can get 3 damage. 4 with a crit. Before they even ride to G2.
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And it works on surprise. They'll just think you misrode a lot.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 9 Empty2012-11-11, 07:44

Asian-English Championship

1 : gold SDD (from Phillipines)
2 : gold SDD
3 : oracle tsukuyomi
4 : narukami dkv

The Entire Tournament~
6 Gold Paladin
4 Oracle Think Tank
3 Narukami
1 Nova Grappler.
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