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SoulKaiser
| Subject: Re: Why is Season 2 so bad 2012-07-31, 10:47 | |
| I dont have a big issue with the lucky hands and whatnot since that'd be like a Soldier complaining that an action movie was more realistic. I believe as long as it serves the narrative its ok to have Kai sack into two Triggs and they did show examples of awesome playing in season 1 (Misaki's Nats win being my fav).
But now its just doing what got me off VG in the first place. Superduper awesome people (Like Kai and AL4) who never loose vs. our heroes who get there asses kicked all the time. I raequit Season 1 in the summercamp ep when Kai beat The Emporer but got back when Evil!Aichi showed up. I was okay with them loosing in Singapore(even if Misaki magically sucks now since she doesn't have any new gimmi- i mean limit Breaks) but this went to far. It's recursive storytelling. I though that the Kai New AL4 thing would be like the awesome Kai Blitzkreig Boys arc from Beyblade G-Revolution but NOPE recursive storytelling. | |
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Alice Admin
| Subject: Re: Why is Season 2 so bad 2012-08-04, 23:34 | |
| And THEN there's THIS episode. >Pendragon HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA This is just laughable. The writers forgot vanguard is not some ancient legendary game. It's a normal card game in that universe. They already fucked the lore by having young Misaki have Tsukuyomi, nay, ANY cards given that only set 1 was out 6 years later. And now HURR LEGENDARY CLANS THAT ARE ANCIENT. AND ONLY ONE FAMILY STILL USES THIS ONE EVEN IF IT'S CARDBOARD AND MASS-PRODUCED. Also everyone suddenly knows royals exist. At first everyone played dumb when Aichi talked about them. Dear fuck this anime is shit | |
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3XXXDDD Admin
| Subject: Re: Why is Season 2 so bad 2012-08-05, 06:15 | |
| Royals only exist while Daigo isn't stuck in the Time-Space warp apparently.
Also, wtf, Daigo teleporting?! | |
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Alice Admin
| Subject: Re: Why is Season 2 so bad 2012-08-05, 10:47 | |
| That was clearly just a marketing episode to show off their new crap. Both the Aqua Force and Pendragon stuff. They realized it wasn't in the show yet but the products would be out so they had to make an episode showing them off.
Look at it. It's episodic as hell. Some random fuck shows up, destroys the plot, shows off new toys, and then leaves presumably forever.
HURRRR. | |
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smellmybox
| Subject: Re: Why is Season 2 so bad 2012-08-05, 11:30 | |
| - Alice wrote:
- That was clearly just a marketing episode to show off their new crap.
That's all they've been doing the entire season... That's also the reason Misaki keeps losing. There's no marketing value in someone winning with year old cards. Unless of course at this training camp she switches to Coco, in which case she'll start winning again. | |
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Alice Admin
| Subject: Re: Why is Season 2 so bad 2012-08-05, 12:39 | |
| Misaki switching to CoCo would make me write a public article telling people to fuck off the Vanguard anime.
CoCo is the LEAST thoughtful deck in existence. And giving the character with actual skill a no-skill deck would piss me off beyond my limits. | |
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smellmybox
| Subject: Re: Why is Season 2 so bad 2012-08-05, 13:27 | |
| - Alice wrote:
- Misaki switching to CoCo would make me write a public article telling people to fuck off the Vanguard anime.
CoCo is the LEAST thoughtful deck in existence. And giving the character with actual skill a no-skill deck would piss me off beyond my limits. I can already see it: Training camp with AL4, Misaki sees Asaka and she realizes she can't keep doing the same things if she wants to win. Misaki will cry about switching her tou-san and kaa-san's magic time traveling deck, realize that she can't keep relying on them forever, and switch over to Coco to show that she's strong enough make her own deck. She will then face someone, and the people watching the match will continuously say "sugoi... misaki-san has become so much stronger!", and when she wins in dramatic fashion, Asaka will lower her head and go "hmph, I knew you could do it" then walk off. A newfound sense of strength and acknowledgement from her peers will be followed by Misaki gazing out to the sunset, ready to face whatever lies ahead. IT'S A DATE FIGHTING GROWING ZANY ROCK BAND STAND UP | |
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MechaCrash
| Subject: Re: Why is Season 2 so bad 2012-08-05, 13:39 | |
| I'm willing to overlook their fuckery about the relative release dates, since Vanguard was basically the card game when the show started, and in reality it wasn't even a year old. So if they have to say "no no, these cards are actually really old/brand new" when we know they're not, I'm willing to go with it if it serves the narrative.
I could even give Psyqualia a pass because it was framing the "heart of the cards" thing as bad because it's relying on someone else's power and not your own.
But Daigo being unstuck in time and space? This is crashing headlong into Yu-Gi-Oh bullshit. | |
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Alice Admin
| Subject: Re: Why is Season 2 so bad 2012-08-05, 14:00 | |
| No dude. In the actual lore itself, Vanguard is 6-7 years old. And for all 6 years, only Set 1 was out.
Seriously.
That's actually a thing. | |
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SoulKaiser
| Subject: Re: Why is Season 2 so bad 2012-08-05, 14:16 | |
| I at least liked this ep for how awesome the cards were.
Also, hily fucking fuck are you serious? Man, I thought that was actually a plot hole but they tried to "explain it" with THAT bullshit? | |
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smellmybox
| Subject: Re: Why is Season 2 so bad 2012-08-07, 07:17 | |
| I guess I was wrong. Kamui and Misaki are getting their own extra boosters. | |
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Alice Admin
| Subject: Re: Why is Season 2 so bad 2012-08-07, 10:09 | |
| And I don't have to hate Vanguard because Misaki won't be using CoCo
But now we have to endure like 10 more episodes of her losing because it'll take too long to show the new extra boosters. | |
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Lotus
| Subject: Re: Why is Season 2 so bad 2012-08-08, 01:51 | |
| But isn't this just as bad? Of course they'll both be using new cards from the new boosters and start winning more. | |
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SoulKaiser
| Subject: Re: Why is Season 2 so bad 2012-08-08, 12:35 | |
| If the cards are cool enough then it's ok. See: Ultimate Robo Daiyuusha. | |
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Kaji Motomiya
| Subject: Re: Why is Season 2 so bad 2012-08-09, 00:01 | |
| - Alice wrote:
- No dude. In the actual lore itself, Vanguard is 6-7 years old. And for all 6 years, only Set 1 was out.
Seriously.
That's actually a thing. It's true. Set 2 cards doesn't come out until Aichi starts participating in his regionals. And everyone's all "OMG he mastered a Onslaught of Dragon Souls card when it hasn't been out too long!" Yet SOMEHOW, loli-Misaki has Full-Moon Goddess Tsukuyomi as a treasured keepsake and beardless Tetsu is playing Dark Irregulars, both listed cards not released until Set 3, which is revealed during the actual Championships. Seriously. How the fuck. | |
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Lotus
| Subject: Re: Why is Season 2 so bad 2012-08-09, 00:04 | |
| I finished season 1 and watched first episode of season 2 and NOPE'd out of it. | |
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SoulKaiser
| Subject: Re: Why is Season 2 so bad 2012-08-09, 00:20 | |
| I think we should just wait till its over and cheRry pick the non-stupid parts like i did in season 1. | |
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Alice Admin
| Subject: Re: Why is Season 2 so bad 2012-08-09, 02:33 | |
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Epideme
| Subject: Re: Why is Season 2 so bad 2012-08-09, 04:54 | |
| Re-watching episode 1 of Season 2 and even though Shadow Paladin was sealed, Skull Witch, Nemain manages to appear at 22:11 on the VF Circuit advertisements. Perhaps they're going to become a "Legendary Clan" like Royals.
Also Vermillion is behind the whole thing. Three simultaneous thunderbolts. A coup of the political structure of the entire Dragon Empire! But they're probably just make the big bad some huge shadow or something. | |
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smellmybox
| Subject: Re: Why is Season 2 so bad 2012-08-09, 07:17 | |
| - Epideme wrote:
- some huge shadow or something.
It is a shadow. Vermillion's true self. | |
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Alice Admin
| Subject: Re: Why is Season 2 so bad 2012-08-09, 12:23 | |
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SoulKaiser
| Subject: Re: Why is Season 2 so bad 2012-08-09, 14:42 | |
| Well its not ALL bad.
Lets see here
1. Derp Ren
2. The Ceaser finally stopped being a jobber in the most badass way possible.
3.Daigo!
4. New Cards
5. Team Super Brain was kinda cool.
6. The Abominble Snowman episode was crazy fun in a camp sort of way. | |
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3XXXDDD Admin
| Subject: Re: Why is Season 2 so bad 2012-08-09, 14:59 | |
| Daigo would have been cooler if he wasn't a Magician of Quantum Mechanics.
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Alice Admin
| Subject: Re: Why is Season 2 so bad 2012-08-09, 15:49 | |
| - 3XXXDDD wrote:
- Daigo would of been cooler if he wasn't a Magician of Quantum Mechanics.
>Would ofI think you know what I'm going to say. | |
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SoulKaiser
| Subject: Re: Why is Season 2 so bad 2012-08-09, 19:34 | |
| Ms. Mundi IS a sticker for Grammar and Syntax. | |
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