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Vulcanpeace




PostSubject: Cardfight Online   2013-05-14, 13:34

Cardfight area(http://cardfight.ru/?page_id=1961)
is a free program that does not require registration and allows you to create a deck and battle with people online,
all the cards that are in the english release are available for public use and some cards that have yet to be released are also availble

it's been helping me a great deal with cardfight vanguard ,it helped me find the clan that i love(dimension police <zeal>) and also
trained me in battling with and against different clans.
but the thing is ,the program is still in it's early stages and it's a little buggy and not quite as stream lined
I'd like to ask the community if there are any better alternatives,and if any of you also that use this little program could post your
screen name ,maybe we've fought before ^_^
screen name:Prince (usually dimension police deck builds)


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3XXXDDD
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PostSubject: Re: Cardfight Online   2013-05-14, 16:35

It is absolute shit.

Cray Online is probably your best bet.
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bradon




PostSubject: Re: Cardfight Online   2013-05-14, 17:39

Cray online even sucks too but its better than cardfight area.
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Pendragon




PostSubject: Re: Cardfight Online   2013-05-14, 20:27

Cardfight Capital still has some servers up but it doesn't have set 10 stuff but it still works great
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Vulcanpeace




PostSubject: Re: Cardfight Online   2013-05-15, 00:10

ould you guys post links along with your suggestions please ^_^
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Vulcanpeace




PostSubject: Re: Cardfight Online   2013-05-15, 00:28

@3XXXDDD wrote:
It is absolute shit.

Cray Online is probably your best bet.
How would you say so? even since version 1.30 i have not had a single crash ,
the only problem i have with it is how "manual" it is,
though they've recently made trigger checking and card searching more automated theyre still far off from being completely stream lined
It's still a good program though,It's not great but it's not absolute shit
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Pendragon




PostSubject: Re: Cardfight Online   2013-05-15, 01:29

Well the program itself isn't shit it's the shuffling that's shit
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Vulcanpeace




PostSubject: Re: Cardfight Online   2013-05-15, 03:50

@Pendragon wrote:
Well the program itself isn't shit it's the shuffling that's shit
Would you mind elaborating?
i've never had a problem with the shuffling before 0_0
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3XXXDDD
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PostSubject: Re: Cardfight Online   2013-05-15, 05:30

@Pendragon wrote:
Well the program itself isn't shit it's the shuffling that's shit

There are far more problems than just that.
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Vulcanpeace




PostSubject: Re: Cardfight Online   2013-05-15, 05:37

My problem with cray online is that it's no longer updating so i dont think their adding any new cards any time soon
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3XXXDDD
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PostSubject: Re: Cardfight Online   2013-05-15, 07:01

@Vulcanpeace wrote:
My problem with cray online is that it's no longer updating so i dont think their adding any new cards any time soon

Uhhh, Cray Online has been up to date and active for quite some time. It had something of a revival after CFC got shut down.
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Pendragon




PostSubject: Re: Cardfight Online   2013-05-15, 08:22

Well, here's the link for CFC for those interested you still need a BYOND account sometimes server is down though:
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Vulcanpeace




PostSubject: Re: Cardfight Online   2013-05-15, 12:54

@Pendragon wrote:
Well, here's the link for CFC for those interested you still need a BYOND account sometimes server is down though:
Problem Loading Page
Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocol (byond) isn't associated with any program.
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Pendragon




PostSubject: Re: Cardfight Online   2013-05-15, 18:59

Do you have BYOND loaded on your computer? Works perfectly fine for me
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Vulcanpeace




PostSubject: Re: Cardfight Online   2013-05-17, 02:38

is cardfight capital still gonna update it's cards though?
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Pendragon




PostSubject: Re: Cardfight Online   2013-05-17, 03:09

No, they only have up to set 9 so either use CFA or Cray Online if you want to test the new stuff.
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Dakota




PostSubject: Re: Cardfight Online   2013-05-19, 13:36

@Vulcanpeace wrote:
@Pendragon wrote:
Well, here's the link for CFC for those interested you still need a BYOND account sometimes server is down though:
Problem Loading Page
Firefox doesn't know how to open this address, because the protocol (byond) isn't associated with any program.
The BYOND protocol specifically works with Dream Seeker and Dream Daemon in order to connect the client to a Dream Maker Environment. In other words, if you haven't installed BYOND, you CANNOT follow a BYOND link.

@bradon wrote:
Cray online even sucks too but its better than cardfight area.
I wouldn't say Cray Online sucks. J's getting it done better. But sneak preview, there's been talk about an all-new program in the future. If the team can ever stay on task. x.x (Or if I can find someone to be on MY team)

@Vulcanpeace wrote:
My problem with cray online is that it's no longer updating so i dont think their adding any new cards any time soon
I would like to mention that this hiatus ended in December. If you're actually interested in online cardfighting, I don't see any excuse why you wouldn't know this. I'm acutely aware of this fact as I'm the one that jumpstarted Cray Online's revival and its subsequent evolutions. Kota's the name, by the way. If you go looking in Cray Online's official website under Unofficial Updates, there's a couple of posts by *ME* where I updated the card database. J_BYYX has since restarted work on the program, with occasional help from myself, and I also took the time to recreate the trial decks for inclusion with new version downloads of Cray Online in order to help newbies. So feel free to tell everyone you know about Vanguard and get them to try Cray Online. It's manual, sure, but it's about as good as Duel Network is for Yu-Gi-Oh!, minus being a download and not having a Guardian Circle.
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Vulcanpeace




PostSubject: Re: Cardfight Online   2013-05-19, 14:14

@3XXXDDD wrote:
It is absolute shit.

Cray Online is probably your best bet.

Alright,I usually give people the benefit of the doubt when they start criticisms but
I've recently tried Cray online and while i have nothing against it and i have no problems with the program,
it's not so good that it would make CFA "shit" in comparison.
In this forum I've learned that everyone's entitled to their opinion provided it's coupled with logical reasoning,
so here's mine:
as of 1.31:
CFA:
automated trigger checks(you can simply click on a unit when you check a trigger and it increase in power)
automated booster power(boosting shows a visual increase in boosted unit's power)
There are also a bunch of other advantages that CFA has over cray online
dont get me wrong Cray online is an amazing program
but unless proven otherwise CFA is still #1 in my eyes

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PostSubject: Re: Cardfight Online   2013-05-19, 15:55

I never said CFA was shit in comparison to Cray (which can do with a lot of work). I said it was shit standing alone.

I have to go look at it again but from what I remember

1) It uses "shuffle_list" which is a generic and as far as I'm aware, unrealistic shuffling algorithm
2) The thing doesn't even open at a comfortable size for whatever reason
3) Chat is atrocious
4) It is written in a pre-defined and awkward simplified gaming language unlike Cray which is written in Python (meaning Cray has a much larger room for improvement where CFA is limited by the limited language).
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Alice
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PostSubject: Re: Cardfight Online   2013-05-19, 19:35

Default Python rand (which is what Cray Online uses) is actually Fisher-Yates. The most powerful and random PRNG ever developed.

CFA is made in Game Maker if I'm not mistaken. CO is open source.
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3XXXDDD
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PostSubject: Re: Cardfight Online   2013-05-19, 19:39

If I wasn't being clear, I was listing the problems I had with CFA, not CO.
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Dakota




PostSubject: Re: Cardfight Online   2013-05-19, 22:22

Yeah, and CO's source is, unfortunately, all Greek to me. Otherwise I would've put in the Guardian Circle myself.
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Pendragon




PostSubject: Re: Cardfight Online   2013-05-20, 04:31

Cray Online lacks spectate
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Vulcanpeace




PostSubject: Re: Cardfight Online   2013-05-20, 06:13

If there's one simple thing that would make Cray online better,
it would be to shuffle your deck after you place you Starting vanguard or
at least be allowed to select your SVG in deck creation so it automatically
gets placed face down when the game starts.
though i admit im not a programmer and this simple change might actually be a difficult task to do
which would also maybe explain why:
-Guarding does not put units to the guard circle
-cards in the dmg zone are placed in a stack rather than side by side slightly overlapping

I'm starting to warm up to this program though ,not for the shuffling but the battle log serves as a nice anti-cheating device.


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Vulcanpeace




PostSubject: Re: Cardfight Online   2013-05-20, 06:28

@3XXXDDD wrote:
I never said CFA was shit in comparison to Cray (which can do with a lot of work). I said it was shit standing alone.

I have to go look at it again but from what I remember

1) It uses "shuffle_list" which is a generic and as far as I'm aware, unrealistic shuffling algorithm

I don't see why you're all bothered by this,For me clicking the shuffle button 3 times usually shuffles the deck pretty well

2) The thing doesn't even open at a comfortable size for whatever reason

It has fullscreen now so thats not really an issue,its actually fairly comfortable

3) Chat is atrocious

You're likely referring to the old chat system,its current chat system is similar to Cray online

4) It is written in a pre-defined and awkward simplified gaming language unlike Cray which is written in Python (meaning Cray has a much larger room for improvement where CFA is limited by the limited language).

You got me there,at their max potencial Cray online would be amazing and would make CFA look like shit im not even gonna fight over that because I know it's true,But at their current states CFA is more stream lined with better graphics,i know that at some point Cray online will surpass this but until then CFA gets my vote
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