WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread

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Germany 105 Participants
Top 8 Decklists

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[Germany Qualifiers - Clan Breakdown]
Unfortunately, we do not have the exact percentages for the Germany Qualifiers as all clans were pretty evenly used. There were slightly more players using Gold Paladin decks compared to the other clans.
[Top 8 Decks]
1st Gold Paladin
2nd Kagero
3rd Spike Brothers
4th Kagero
5th Nova Grappler
6th Narukami
7th Pale Moon
8th Gold Paladin

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119 Participants
[Top 8 Decks]
1st Gold Paladin
2nd Spike Brothers
3rd Angel Feather
4th Oracle Think Tank
5th Nova Grappler
6th Royal Paladin
7th Granblue
8th Oracle Think Tank

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180 Participants
Top 4 - Gold Paladin

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Dallas - 220 Participants
[Top 8 Decks]
1st Gold Paladin
2nd Gold Paladin
3rd Gold Paladin
4th Kagero + Spike Brothers Hybrid
5th Gold Paladin
6th Gold Paladin
7th Oracle Think Tank
8th Gold Paladin

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Seattle - 150 Participants (Can anyone confirm?)
1st Narukami
2nd Gold Paladin
3rd Gold Paladin
4th Oracle Think Tank
5th Gold Paladin
6th Nova Grappler
7th Narukami
8th Gold Paladin

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Chicago

1st - Gold Paladin
2nd - Gold Paladin
3rd - Tsukuyomi
4th - Tsukuyomi
5-8 - 1 Tsukuyomi & 3 Gold Paladin

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Philippines

1st Spectral Duke Dragon
2nd Soul Saver/Alfred Royal Paladin
3rd Tsukuyomi
4th Nova Grappler
5th Gold Paladin
6th Angel Feather
7th Gold Paladin
8th Granblue

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Australia

1st Narukami
2nd Oracle Think Tank
3rd Gold Paladin
4th Kagero
5th - 8th (Not in order) Gold Paladin, Narukami, Nova Grappler, Royal Paladin.

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LOTS OF BULLSHIT AT THIS PARTICULAR EVENT. BAG, SALT, SPOON, EAT IT ALL WHEN READING THIS

New York/New Jersey
[Top 8 Decks]
1st Gold Paladin
2nd Gold Paladin
3rd Gold Paladin
4th Oracle Think Tank + Spike Brothers
5th Gold Paladin
6th Kagero + Spike Brothers
7th Kagero
8th Oracle Think Tank

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France
1st Gold Paladin
2nd Kagero
3rd Gold Paladin
4th Gold Paladin
5th Gold Paladin
6th Royal Paladin
7th Oracle Think Tank
8th Gold Paladin

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Malaysia
1st Nova Grappler
2nd Gold Paladin
3rd Gold Paladin
4th Narukami
5/8th Gold Paladin, Narukami, Kagero, Gold Paladin

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Atlanta

1. Garmore Bunny
2. Garmore Bunny
3. Nova Grappler
4. Angel Feathers
5-8 (No order)
Royal Paladin
Narukami
Gold Paladin
Gold Paladin

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Osaka

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Unfortunately, we were unable to obtain the clan breakdown for the Osaka Qualifiers. We apologize greatly for the inconvenience caused.

[Top 8 Decks]
1st Gold Paladin
2nd Narukami
3rd Oracle Think Tank
4th Spike Brothers
5th Kagero
6th Kagero
7th Gold Paladin
8th Angel Feather

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Great Britain Qualifiers
288 Participants
[Top 8 Decks]
1st Gold Paladin
2nd Pale Moon
3rd Gold Paladin
4th Spike Brothers
5th Gold Paladin
6th Oracle Think Tank
7th Gold Paladin
8th Oracle Think Tank

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Singapore
1. Spectral Duke Dragon/Garmore
2. Spectral Duke Dragon/Garmore/Ezel
3. Tsukuyomi/Amaterasu
4. Oracle Think Tank Soulless
5. Granblue
6-8. Narukami

My Thoughts

Goku in second with only 2 Barri's? :O (Most likely money issues considering Goku-Kagero is otherwise budget)

Pale Moon with 8 Draws! I'm guessing fodder for Barking Manticore's skill.

Edit: Oh wait, that is all the triggers they have in the ECG.

Angel Feathers - Awesome. Everything else looks fairly standard.

Basically we're either looking at people who don't know how to build for vanguard or are not able to afford it.

Half of the decks aren't running 4 PGs... Pale Moon with 3 Mirror Demon but only 1 Alice... Hell, other than the Nova Grappler's and the first place deck, I see flaws in every one of them up there.

EDIT - I don't know enough about Narukami to call it, but the G3's just look... off.

I'm actually surprised people think a brand new card game will have competent players at the first ever tournament. Does no one even remember the first yugioh nationals? *shudder*

Alice wrote:

I'm actually surprised people think a brand new card game will have competent players at the first ever tournament. Does no one even remember the first yugioh nationals? *shudder*

That is actually what makes me expect better results - people know they should research a game better early on since a lot of other people won't - giving them an edge.

Well, Alice, you'll delighted by the pretty picture I posted above. :D

Yeah I'm REALLY happy to have some solid data. It's also evidence for my hypothesis of deck popularity wins.

Updated with Indonesia results and a lazy chart.

I keep lolling at "rest of clan". And once again GP and NK are hugely popular.
>Top 4 Gold Paladin
Yep. HALF of them were GP.

I want to see a golds player top ONE tournament where GP isn't a huge chunk of the clans present.

So so far in vague terms;

> GP Fandom is crazy
> Spike Brothers are awesome
> Narukami suck

>Spikes topping even when they're one of the least played clans
Huehuehue

Canada's qualifiers make me happy - both of the top two decks look near flawless to me in terms of build. No random Devil Summoner's or anything bad in either deck, full set of PG's in each... And above all else it was a DUKE deck that topped. I dislike Duke personally but I cannot say it's not a solid deck, and seeing it top over Ezel makes my day.

180 Participants approx in Indonesia. Meaning 90 Gold Paladin, 55ish Narukami.

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[Germany Qualifiers - Clan Breakdown]
Unfortunately, we do not have the exact percentages for the Germany Qualifiers as all clans were pretty evenly used. There were slightly more players using Gold Paladin decks compared to the other clans.

>There were slightly more players using Gold Paladin decks compared to the other clans.

hahahahahahahahahaha holy fuck English format is screwed. GP popularity is annoying.

Finally someone who is intelligent about that.

I hope GP get hit enough to make people look elsewhere for a while. Right now the competitive scene is fan masturbation and it's just annoying.

The question comes how do you hit GP in a constructive way that doesn't really hurt the flow of the deck, but drives some people away from it? Very little comes to mind... you can shoot the starter of one build, but that'll just make the other one the way to go... so you need to hit a core card from BOTH of them without crippling the decks... which is really hard to do =\ Unless you just ban both starters...

> Garmore? Since it really shouldn't be in GP anyway because it has very little to do with their aesthetic of restricted, free resource, superior calling.

Most of those Set 7 GP aren't all that great too. Dindrane is spectacular with Garmore, Lop Ear isn't bad at all but Pellinore just seems to be a huge drain on their resorces especially considering both Ezel/Garmore get half that power for pretty much no investment.

Not that BT07 GP had anything to do with current GP.

Also how about we get Barcgal unrestricted so some people would stop bandwagoning on GP?

Hmmm, but most Duke decks I've seen aren't running Garmore - the issue is there are only a handful of cards that BOTH decks run to be hit. The only one that wouldn't cripple one or the other is Vivianne, but I don't see too many Duke's running her even still.

And unrestricting Barcgal won't undo the damage, people have already invested at least 100$ in Halo Shields alone, let alone the rest of the deck - either between Duke's or Ezel's and Garmore's, they've had to have invested another hundred or so just to get it working.

Wolfen wrote:

Hmmm, but most Duke decks I've seen aren't running Garmore - the issue is there are only a handful of cards that BOTH decks run to be hit. The only one that wouldn't cripple one or the other is Vivianne, but I don't see too many Duke's running her even still.

And unrestricting Barcgal won't undo the damage, people have already invested at least 100$ in Halo Shields alone, let alone the rest of the deck - either between Duke's or Ezel's and Garmore's, they've had to have invested another hundred or so just to get it working.

> Searches SDD for Garmore, You're right, Garmore isn't a huge standard in them at all

People were willing to spend that kind of money when Barcgal got hit, What is to say they wouldn't just do same if it came back? Royal Paladins would surely start making a consistent showing at Tournament and grab back at least a few of the RP > GP bandwagoners back.

I wonder if Spikes have gone up in price at all recently.

Nice to see Spikes in the game. Sad but not surprised that GB is getting no love but what can you do, eh?

I have half a mind to see if we could all set up some kind of tourny, but that would involve BYOND shenanigans.

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[New York Qualifiers]
We have great news!
The venue is moving us to a larger room to accommodate more fighters. Stay tuned as we post updates on the NY Qualifier Events Page on when pre-reg for NY re-opens.

Increasing Venue sizes eh?

Nice to see NA Vanguard is getting big. We probably wont get a market, but with this and the office it's god to know Bushi knows about us.