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SoulKaiser

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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 3 Empty2012-09-18, 15:56

Christ, I just cant stand that Tom Rogers has been at least partially vindicated, by you of all people. It's like Einstein citing L Ron Hubbard.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 3 Empty2012-09-18, 16:06

Who the fuck is Tom Rogers?
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 3 Empty2012-09-18, 16:37

Alice wrote:
Who the fuck is Tom Rogers?

Previously #1 Western Duel Masters Player I believe.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 3 Empty2012-09-18, 17:00

Wow, it's fucking nothing.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 3 Empty2012-09-18, 17:03

An asshole who has the need to say that literally every time he's brought up, starts drama everywhere, stays to his stupid little cult on GoF (and even they can barely stand him) and just shits up Pojo, Deckout and any other community with full blown retard peacoking assholeness. Imagine you, but as a total dick. Point is a while ago he made an article in which, in his full blown douche mode, he decried games that were too balanced and that didnt only a few viable builds because he said that with all decks being equal, games would amount to luck and skill wouldn't be the deciding factor. He did it in the most obnoxious way possible, but the point is I'm seeing he's right and it pisses me off to no end.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 3 Empty2012-09-18, 17:16

Individual games do not amount to chance. The probability that a given CLAN wins amounts to chance. He has it fucking backwards.

Not only that, he's double retarded. Removing balance simply makes 2-3 decks playable, once again making it all due to chance (using his fucktarded logic). Except it doesn't. And being balanced (IF it were true) would at least make the number of decks that are viable in this hypothetical omgluck world go up.

And I guess Chess and Go are omgluck games too given that they're so balanced.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 3 Empty2012-09-18, 17:23

I may just be projecting my dislike of his personality to the article, you're an unbiased genius on the subject, what do you think?

http://www.pojo.com/duelmasters/Featured-Writers/Tom_Rogers/2010/1-22.shtml
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 3 Empty2012-09-18, 17:34

>Tom Rogers on Duel Masters The Answer Addendum: Perfection in Card Gaming
>Duel Masters
>Perfection

>Constantly using bbcode in the article and it fails due to being an HTML page

>OPINIONS OPINIONS OPINIONS OPINIONS


AND THEN I SAW THIS NUGGET:

Quote :
A game at it’s optimal health has a Tier Zero. This means there is one dominant deck which consistently defeats all others in the field of play. Why is that a good thing? Wouldn’t you want a large spectrum of unique, original decks with creative forms of victory? Isn’t that the “point” of the game?

Well that’s all nice, but you might as well stick that pacifier back in your mouth and ride your unicorn back to Candyland if you honestly believe having that many decks is good for the game.

I will find him.

And I will kill him.
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Klaus

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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 3 Empty2012-09-18, 17:42

SoulKaiser wrote:
I may just be projecting my dislike of his personality to the article, you're an unbiased genius on the subject, what do you think?

http://www.pojo.com/duelmasters/Featured-Writers/Tom_Rogers/2010/1-22.shtml

That was painful to read.

His argument for not wanting a diverse amount of decks is pretty much flawed anyway as simply pointed out by Alice earlier; just turns those 2-3 decks into who gets what first.

Bitches about "Win Mongers".
Post opinions like one.
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SoulKaiser

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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 3 Empty2012-09-18, 17:44

Alice wrote:

I will find him.

And I will kill him.
WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 3 It_sdo10


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MechaCrash

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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 3 Empty2012-09-18, 17:59

Could you maybe dial the "creepy fanboy" down a few notches?
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SoulKaiser

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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 3 Empty2012-09-18, 18:26

Its just cool that Alice, my fav tcg personality, also dislikes Tom, my most hated tcg personality. She even used the same quote I did.
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MechaCrash

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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 3 Empty2012-09-18, 19:14

That's great. Try to sound a bit less like a stalker when you're saying these things.
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SoulKaiser

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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 3 Empty2012-09-18, 19:20

Kay. Ill just keep it down to 4chan superfan levels from now on.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 3 Empty2012-09-18, 19:27

MechaCrash wrote:
That's great. Try to sound a bit less like a stalker when you're saying these things.

At least it's not the person who was calling her "Alice-sama" and treated her like his beloved senpai in a crappy slice of life high school romantic comedy complete with people running to school with toast in their mouths.

Er, wait. Maybe it is the same person. I can't remember.
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SoulKaiser

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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 3 Empty2012-09-18, 20:13

Alice-sama? Wow that sounds pretty over the line.
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Alice
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 3 Empty2012-09-19, 02:13

Can we get back on topic, please?
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 3 Empty2012-09-19, 05:08

Right then. So is there really no cure for this but time? Given its a REALLY popular misconception (and cutting away the bullshit like a nerdy Mike Lewis is one of your stated goals) do you think an article on Assertion is in Vmundi's future. (And may I suggest an overhead menu sideboard like on toplessrobot?)
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 3 Empty2012-09-20, 07:53

Mexico - Winning List - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtyyUX-ELJA

2 Thunder Break Dragon
2 Plasma Bite Dragon
1 Dragonic Kaiser Vermillion

3 Thunderstorm Dragoon
3 Demonic Dragon Berserker, Garuda
3 Hex Cannon, Wyvern
3 Dragonic Deathscythe

4 Wyvern Guard Guld
4 Red River Dragoon
3 Desert Gunner Raien
3 Photon Bomber Wyvern
2 Dragon Dancer, Rai Rai

1 Spark Kid Dragoon* (I think anyway)
8 Critical
4 Draw
4 Heal
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Alice
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 3 Empty2012-09-20, 12:20

PFFFFTAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Good job NK dude. You beat all of Mexico with an underpowered deck. God damn.
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3XXXDDD



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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 3 Empty2012-09-20, 14:00

If that defeated Gold Paladin...Then well...
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 3 Empty2012-09-20, 14:52

Confirming what we already know. Gold Paladins make up newbies from other games and bandwagon scrubs who thought it was omgTier1
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 3 Empty2012-09-20, 15:53

Alice wrote:
Confirming what we already know. Gold Paladins make up newbies from other games and bandwagon scrubs who thought it was omgTier1

You mean 0 right? :3

But yeah, some good evidence for that.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 3 Empty2012-09-20, 17:35

That Narukami deck. Mexico is either full of god tier players who can draw their one good Grade 3 whenever they want, or beyond the limits of being bad. So this guy moves on to the next level right?
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread - Page 3 Empty2012-09-20, 20:01

yeap
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