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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-09-21, 01:03

It's like watching a Dali painting having sex with M C Escher on peyote. That deck was Lovecraftian in its insanity.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-09-21, 06:27

The deck wasn't terrible or anything, oddly low on Grade 3's and missing a few Dragonic Kaisers but nothing like "OMGZ terri-bad"
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-09-21, 14:50

It was just so atypical, not even the cliche top deck stuff. I dug it for its ingenuity.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-09-22, 08:10

Australia

1st Narukami
2nd Tsukuyomi
3rd/4th Goku Overlord

Bwahahahaha. Loving this.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-09-22, 09:52

oh god GP didn't even top
Guys, expect to see some NK price hikes.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-09-22, 10:06

Alice wrote:
oh god GP didn't even top
Guys, expect to see some NK price hikes.

Mind, that is only one Goku Overlord deck, we don't know the other deck in the 3rd or if 4th place.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-09-22, 20:19

1 narukami
1 royal paladin
1 kagero
1 tsukuyomi
2 gold paladin
1 nova grappler
1 unknown

- Australian Top 8, Not in order.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-09-25, 16:59

Australian National finals

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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-09-25, 17:24

Watching the video

Australian keeps putting his hand in the Damage Zone during Trigger Checking. That sort of play shouldn't be allowed in such a high profile event mainly because what kind of idiot (with a well functioning body) needs both his hands to Drive/Damage Check.

Also was that the judge who stopped the Rear Vermillion attack to the damage-boosted Mocha because it wouldn't hit? The Judge shouldn't of interfered there, it isn't against the rules to attack a higher attack unit and neither the judges job to stop the defending player from making a mistake in play outside of rules context.

I'm not surprised we heard of claims of him cheating at all. Not one bit.


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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-09-25, 17:33

Yeah that judge is in the wrong. That's a misplay and it's perfectly legal.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-09-25, 19:34

Your wording is a bit off there Alice.

In any case, insert standard 'The meta is fucked and its going to get more fucked" comment here.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-09-25, 20:48

3XXXDDD wrote:
Watching the video

Australian keeps putting his hand in the Damage Zone during Trigger Checking. That sort of play shouldn't be allowed in such a high profile event mainly because what kind of idiot (with a well functioning body) needs both his hands to Drive/Damage Check.

Also was that the judge who stopped the Rear Vermillion attack to the damage-boosted Mocha because it wouldn't hit? The Judge shouldn't of interfered there, it isn't against the rules to attack a higher attack unit and neither the judges job to stop the defending player from making a mistake in play outside of rules context.

I'm not surprised we heard of claims of him cheating at all. Not one bit.

Looked over it, the Judge stoped the attack because the Heal Trigger's +5000 wasn't assigned to any Units.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-09-26, 18:37

I was talking to one my fellow CFV players and he told me he actually got talk to the winner of the Toronto qualifier. The Toronto winner stated that he let his friend use his deck for Chicago and it won again. Supposively the guy from toronto lives on the border of Michigan and his friend lives in Michigan. I'm not too sure if it's true but once the recipes are posted, if true, then that has to be the best deck in the format.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-09-26, 18:49

Or those two players are just better than other players. There exists more than just the possibility that the deck is unilaterally better than all others.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-09-26, 18:54

It is kind of cute that the exact same deck would top though (like, not just same build but the same physical cards)

And yeah, the player quality is really low being a new game and all.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-09-26, 19:15

I understand what you two are saying but once the public see the same exact deck wins again then the whole gold paladin favoritism will be through the roof. More like through the atmosphere! I do agree that the player quality isn't all that good. Out of my card shop there's maybe five of us regulars that are good. Most people at these regionals will think they are good because they have the popular deck
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-09-26, 19:19

It already is that way. People come in from other games and treat Vanguard the same as those games. Gold Paladins are popular because of their similarity to games like Yugioh where getting a new card somehow is always great. They fail to see the GP are the same as every other deck, and in many circumstances cannot generate consistent plays. From there it just becomes induction and circular reasoning.

"This deck won, it must be the best! I'll copy it"

"This deck is the best because it won!"

And around and around we go. Even when other decks such as Narukami top, no one bats an eye. So add impact bias to the other causes. Essentially, GPs are a fad.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-09-26, 19:21

Speaking of regionals, has anyone of you been to one yet or going to one of the next few left? I'll be in jersey.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-09-26, 19:22

I'm hoping to hit LA if I get this new job in time.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-09-26, 19:36

I'll be hitting the UK WCQ and no doubt the Euro's after. ;)
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-09-26, 20:05

Im hitting LA with Wolfen
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-09-26, 23:59

It looks like i was right about the two decks being the same exact build. Damn
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-09-27, 00:08

I'm stuck in Kansas D:
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-09-27, 00:33

Klaus wrote:
I'm stuck in Kansas D:

as am i, would love to see tachikaze top 8 once would just make my year better.
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PostSubject: Re: WCQ 2012 - Results Discussion Thread   2012-09-27, 08:36

Updated with Chicago Breakdown. Same beef as usual.

Linked to third place Tsukuyomi deck list as well.
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